February 24, 2025
My article “DOGE: Can’t Shrink Government Without Eliminating Its Power” was the subject of a two-
hour radio discussion on the “Lunch with the Missouri Black Chamber of Commerce,”
program. The program took place on February 15, 2025.
The discussion can be found at Ferguson USA Hot Talk Radio: https://youtube.com/live/mxEe12OeQBQ
The other participants on the show were:
Chuck DeBow, President, National Black Chamber of Commerce
Ira Fowlkes, President, Missouri Black Chamber of Commerce
Rev. Allen Lyles (The Rev)
Finally, I want to thank Ira Fowlkes, the show’s host, for his willingness to explore novel and controversial ideas about governing the United States.
William L. Kovacs, author of Devolution of Power: Rolling Back the Federal State to Preserve the Republic. It received five stars from Readers’ Favorite. His previous book, Reform the Kakistocracy, received the 2021 Independent Press Award for Political/Social Change. He served as senior vice president for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and chief counsel to a congressional committee. He can be contacted at [email protected]